Comments (Jan 2005- November 2007) page

See Bereavements (SOS button at left) also. The following message was posted by Carol Fowler to members of the Ottawa Branch, The Royal Canadian Regiment Association.

From: Al F. For your information. I knew Joe in his last days as PSO and as an MPP. I enjoyed every conversation with him. He was a very fine gentleman. RIP

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From: Charles N McCabe [mailto:cnmccabe@sympatico.ca]

Subject: JOE MOMBOURQUETTE

RHC Folks: Many of you who served in Gagetown in 1960s will recall PSO Joe Mombourquette.

Al Fowler

Joe was Colin's father. He was unquestionably one of the best Personnel Selection Officers the Army ever had and one heck of a fine officer who was highly regarded and respected by everyone who met him.

CNM

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By MICHAEL STAPLES staples.michael@dailygleaner.com Published Wednesday November 28th, 2007 Appeared on page A6

Burton's Joe Mombourquette is being praised as a man who did much for many. The former Oromocto MLA and popular community member died Tuesday at the Oromocto Public Hospital. He was 85.

Born in Lower L'Ardoise, Richmond County, Cape Breton, he was a veteran of the Second World War, the Korean War, was a provincial cabinet minister in the government of the late Richard Hatfield, and a founding member of the Burton's Lions Club. Oromocto Mayor Fay Tidd described Mombourquette as a man who contributed much to the Oromocto community through his work as a politician and as a participant in a score of service oriented organizations. "I don't think I ever heard anyone who didn't like Joe Mombourquette," Tidd said. "There was no one more respected in the area than he. He will be sorely missed."

Premier Shawn Graham offered condolences to the Mombourquette family Tuesday. "On behalf of all New Brunswickers, I would like to extend sincerest condolences to Mrs. Theresa Mombourquette as well as Mr. Mombourquette's children and his family and many friends during this difficult time," Graham said in a statement.

In a 2002 interview, Mombourquette described his life as both interesting and challenging. "I have been lucky, so lucky," he said at the time. "I have enjoyed life. I have a wonderful wife and wonderful children."

I am sending you a file attachment regarding the song "Guardsmen of Canada". On page 98, paragraph 4, of the history 'A Regiment Worthy Of Its Hire" there is the following sentence "As a special feature BSgt. "Yogi" Russell sang his own composition "Guardsmen of Canada". When I read that I knew that the statement was incorrect. From personal knowledge I knew that the song had been composed by BS/Sgt A.W.S. "Art" Very. Unfortunately I had no proof.

However, I was recently presented with a copy of a program of music given by the Band of the Canadian Guards on February 24, 1959. In that program it clearly states that "Guardsmen of Canada" was composed (words and music) by Very and not Russell. The pertinent page of that program is attached as a file. I know that it is too late to correct the entry in the book, but perhaps there is some other way of noting the error. Both the individuals have been long deceased, but as a matter of historical record a correction has some importance.

I also have in my possession a hand written copy by A.W.S.Very of "Guardsmen of Canada" which also states he is the composer.

 Sincerely, Jim Milne, Major (Ret'd), former Director of Music, Governor General's Foot Guards. (Oct 29)

Jim

Thank you very much for the info on "Guardsmen of Canada". I was not aware of the controversy but knew the song and the two involved individuals rather well. As you mention it does not matter to the individuals concerned now but is a matter of history and record. I have cc'd the board and we are now all aware of the facts. If we ever reprint the history or indeed list the noted errors, this will be included.

Again many thanks for the facts and the best of luck for the future.

Ian Douglas, President (Oct 31)

Happy Birthday to all my old friends. Gdsm Dave Bruton SB182124. (Oct 20)

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Greetings All; ........ The names (on distrb list) bring back many memories including arriving in 2 Cdn Gds in Dec 53 at Camp Petawawa and meeting those new Gdsm who had just arrived home from Korea after serving with 3 PPCLI. Also remember my informal rebadging ceremony taking down CDN GDS flashes, worn for 20 years, and being given new shoulder flashes by Patricia officers welcoming me back to PPCLI in mid 73 in a bunker in Vietnam. I served in Korea 1950-51 with 2 PPCLI. Even though Judy and I, spent 2 & 1/2 months in NZ and Australia in Jan/Mar of this year, we are invited back to Australia for Anniversary of Kapyong Ceremonies in Adelaide in Apr 2008. Best wishes, John (Bishop) (Oct 18)

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Ditto! Thanks. (re: Birthday)

John (Hayter) (Oct 17)

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Too true. A quote from "Our Book", p.149, lines 41-42, says it all "It was not the Guards spirit that made a Canadian Regiment great, but the Canadian spirit that made a great Guards Regiment". ............. Those of us who had the honour of serving will never forget or forgive.

AMUAM, Andrew (Maxwell) (Oct 17)

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Fellow Guardsmen, Wishing you all a Happy Birthday! Curly and Val Harper (Oct 16)

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To all members of 4 COY 1st Canadian Guards who served in Cyprus 1964 - Happy Regimental Birthday on the 16th.

Jim Bradbury (Oct 16)

I am hoping to locate former comrades who served with me --> 68 through 69 in SAIGON. Please drop me a line with your phone number or contact me at 250 338 1788, regards, Butch (Oct 16) Albert Montreuil

As promised, just a note about The Lame King. 2nd (revised) printing is now aval. AMUAM, Steve

G.W. Stephen Brodsky, CD, PhD, 9645 Sixth St, Sidney, BC V8L 2W1, Ph: (250) 655-4303 e-mail: frilia@shaw.ca

I'm sorry to hear that Roger Corrigan has left us. It may be of interest for your museum work that, as a sergeant in the GGFG, he was a student on a Drill and Duties course conducted by John West and me at the Depot in the summer of 1956. There is a graduation photograph in which he appears. It was in the Ottawa newspaper, titled "Parade Square Terrors". AMUAM, Steve Brodsky (Oct 9)

Re: SUMMER REPORT 2007, LAST WORDS

GUARDS BOXERS

While celebrating the 1st Battalion Canadian Guards sportsmen, let us not forget our boxers. Over a period of nine years (1957 to 1965) 18 or more Guardsmen were crowned boxing champions in weight divisions from Feather Weight to Heavy Weight in both novice and open class.

Championship after Championship tournament award winners were; Tommy Chesson, “Moon” Mulligan, Pinky Burrows, Ron Gervais, John Sweeney, Ambrose Meany, Wayne Fields, Junior Warrington, Cyril Johnson, Sammy Best, the Upshaw brothers, Tony O’Quinn, Frank Rogers, Don Keetch, Bill Paradine, Bill Morrison and Bren Keetch. Their title winning performances, some of which were broadcast live by Canadian Forces Radio, took place in Canada, England and Germany.

In Duselledorf Germany 1962, Bill Morrison (Light heavy weight) and Bren Keetch (light weight) became the first, and never since, Canadian Forces boxers to win a BAOR title. That same year, Keetch went on to settle for runner-up in the British Army Boxing Championships held at Albert Hall, London England.

It goes without saying that the one Guardsman most responsible for the 1st Canadian Guards boxing team’s success is Guards Sports Hall of Famer, Tommy Chesson.

Bren Keetch A Mari Usque ad Mare (Sept 17)

JAS,

I was looking through some old papers last night and found this photo (see bottom of Home Page) from the first mount in 1959. I know I have many more and will do a search for them before the 50th anniversary.

From left to right are Peter Kristjansen, Ian Smart and Fred Vokes. What a handsome crew we were – and a handful of trouble.

I think it was Fred who flummoxed everyone with the response “Sex by Night” when the Old Guard Commander ordered “Sick by Day”.

Peter Kristjansen (Sept 17)

I am not sure of the year,but I believe it was 1962. We were at Rockliffe on public duties detachment with 7 coy. One of our Gdsm received injuries from horse-back riding. His name was Glen Hurd. We all chipped in and had his mother come down to visit him. It was quite serious. From that time to now, I have always wondered what had happened to one of our own. In those days, a Major commanded 5 Divisions; sure has changed, regards to all. Butch Albert Montreuil (Sept 13)

Greeting's...been awhile since I've seen Depot photos! Any new ones ?? G Hayes (Anyone help here?) Sept 7

Hi, I was in Depot training for the Guards in summer of 1966, under Sgt White, Cpl Butt, Cpl Ganon. Lt Durant platoon commander.. even though my stay was short lived due to problems at home. I was given a hon discharge ..I always consider myself a Gdsm .....sb188015..

So what I'm looking for is any early pics of the platoon ; I know some were taken..when we won the Depot Entertainment Night.. and Phys Ed pics ... I can be reached at niceguyjohn58@yahoo.ca

My name is John Luciow... thanks in advance... any cost in getting these pics I will be glad to cover.. also like to hear from anyone in Depot at that time.. I was at the 50 anniversary in Ottawa as well .. met RSM Scott there - was great to see him again. (Sept 6)

One day while browsing through my computer, I went into Korea vets, In there I found Burke, known to me as "Kid Burke" boxer with 4th Guards of which I was a member with him in "C" Company. He went to Korea in '54 and I was 3 months too young. We separated then and when I saw his name I emailed him.

As he lives in southern Sask., he had to come to Brandon MB for hospital appointment. We made arrangements to meet for coffee. It was great to talk to him and go back over the years. It had been 52 years since we had seen each other. It was just great. I would like to hear from any others I served with in 4th and 3rd Bn; The good old days. Ward Jackson archie15@mts.net

PS. ended up as a cook with 3rd Bn until disbanned in 57

Hi, Just looking through the pictures of the Div Parade at the airfield in Gagetown. I was also there the name of the airfield was Blissfield not Innisfeld and the parade IC was Cliff Ludtke. (CWO C O Ludtke) Not meaning to offend anyone but just noticed the name for the Airfield. I was stationed in Gagetown for 14 years Ward Jackson (August 31)

** BBC as we called him in Egypt, Big Bad Cliff - was the RSM for that parade, also RSM in Egypt 63. Also saw him in Chatham NB and visited with him in the Sgt Mess in Victoria after he retired. - good man (additional info Sept 2 from Ward)

Dear Webmaster.

My name is GDSM. Manner, Harry I., 2nd and 1st Bn. Oct.54 to Oct. 57. Met with our friends Henry Campbell and Ambrose Dwyer couple of days ago in our museum at Petawawa and they recommended that I contact you. I have approx. 15 minutes of 8mm. color film and some black and white photographs of my time in Petawawa and Gagetown NB. on VHS. Film shows 2nd Bn. of Cdn. Guards and 2nd Bn. Band on parade. Lt.Col. McDonald (?) CO making a presentation to Regimental Sergeant Major Lee. Close up of individual soldiers etc. 2nd Bn. in attack with full tank support. This was a demonstration, in Petawawa, to Canadian Staff College students and foreign visitors summer of 1956. I can send this to you in VHS form or transfer it to DVD form which ever would work better for you. I live in the state of Florida, and will be there in November, where all this material is located.

I know that the space in Petawawa is quite small and, according to Henry and Ambrose, can't be used for additional displays, except on your webpage, if possible. Please let me know if you can make use of this material, I would be happy to send it you.

Sincerely, Harry I. Manner Gdsm. SB177463 (Aug 30) (Harry will be sending a DVD later)

JUST READING UP ON THE NET.... DON MACKINNON.... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK (Aug 17)

Korean War Veterans reflects on 35 years of service - Link here --Hi Jas; Please note that I wore Cdn Gds shoulder titles during three of my six overseas tours in nine different countries. Best regards, John (Bishop) (Aug 10)

This may be of interest to our members. Many Canadian soldiers went to the Canadian Guards when they returned from the Korean War. In addition, as you know, 4 Canadian Guards served in Korea in 1954 during the peacekeeping period. Click --->HERE Best regards, John Bishop (July 22)

Update from Bren Keetch Click --->HERE

I had purchased a licence plate and some decals from Terry Dexter a while back and while I was filling up the gas tank, this chap came over and introduced himself to me--a former Gdsm from the 1st, I informed him that the 2nd was the finest. We discussed a few of our friends from years gone by. His name is Boyd Shears and lives in the Comox valley. Some day we will have a great get together, here in the North island. I will be in Ottawa in late Sep; anyone wishing to do lunch, drop me a line.

regards Butch (Montreuil) (July 11)

from Rev. Frank Patrick * see also "SOS" button at left

At the Guards Reunion in Ottawa/Petawawa a few summers ago, I had the pleasure of meeting Bill and Margaret Marshall. They live in Lindsay, Ontario, just 20 minutes from me. Since I'm Chaplain to veteran's groups in the Peterborough area (Legion and CAVUNP) our paths have crossed a few times since we first met in Ottawa. Coincidently, Bill served with The Highland Light Infantry of Canada in WW 2, along with three of my uncles. The HLI was also the reserve unit I served with prior to joining the Guards.

[* Piper Frank Leslie Patrick,2nd Bn]

 Bill and I have really connected, and Margaret has asked that I be involved with them at this time, on a pastoral basis. Bill is in the final stages of his life with cancer. Margaret has also asked me to let you know about their current situation.

 Margaret can be reached at 1 705 878 8885.

** Capt William Douglas Marshall, served with the 2nd Bn (via Jas, July 9)

As a fellow Heart Disease survivor Roger just want to wish you a full and complete recovery. There will be peaks and valleys on the road to recovery but being a Guardsman I know you will think positive and will make a complete recovery. If you ever feel the need to chat my e mail is BobCharlton@shaw.ca. Cheers Bob. (July 6)

 [ HI, JAS ] this is Roger Leblanc from Oshawa. I just got home Monday from heart surgery, triple bypass, at St. Mike's hospital in Toronto. All is good so far. I'll be spending the next two or three months recovering and Rehab. Hope to hear from fellow guardsmen.

Bye for now..... GUARDSMAN ROGER LEBLANC (July 5)

My name is Michele Thompson. My father Ronald M. Lauzon, it is my understanding, was a member of the first Canadian Honour Guard on Parliament Hill in 1959. I am trying to find any information that I can about my dad. I would be particularly interested in photos.

I am at a loss as to where to begin, and am hopeful that you can help. (June 28)

Gdsm Ronald Medford Lauzon, 1st Bn

I bought these at a garage sale in Woodstock (Ontario) probably 10 years ago. Wasn't sure of the plaid design. The scabbards are not real, hand carved wood. It may have been part of an estate of someone deceased. 4 RCR (militia) had a Company there and I assume he may have had some connection with them. The badges are issue. Looks like the ones the officers wore on their kahki forage caps but not sure. Tom O'Shea (June 28)

 

OK..here are 2 questions for former members of the Pipes and Drums! (or any other knowledgable person) Is that the correct pattern behind the "scabbard" ? Does anyone know the correct reference for the pattern in RSOs? webmaster

Please post the following information for use of our fellow Guards, or their advocate, who were, or think they were, detailed to go to Atomic Energy Canada Limited (AECL) on clean up duty in 1958. If the individual was there, AECL Chalk River Laboratories will release, upon request by letter of which includes name/rank and Service Number, the dates and the "...radiation exposures while working in the NRU building at Chalk River in 1958." In the event our comrade is deceased, the advocate must get a signed Medical Release form from the spouse/survivor. Include the form with the letter to AECL requesting data.

 Atomic Energy Canada Limited
 Health, Chemistry and Environment Division, Chalk River Laboratories
Radiation Biology and Health Physics Branch, Chalk River, Ontario Canada K0J 1J0
Atten: Carolyn E. Henderson CEHIvwI

Tel (613) 584-3311 , ext. 4757 Fax (613)584-1713

Further, my data file on the above matter is massive and will be available to anyone upon their request. : bonlake@telus.net

 Thank you. Yours, Bren Keetch (Apr 9)

Hello all. I am looking for a copy of the Recruiting pamphlet circa 1955/6/7? , to replace one which I have misplaced/lost/cannot find/etc/etc. I would be happy to copy it and send it back.

To TS MacEachern, whose picture is on the front page ( I believe), your sister-in-law, Donna Jones, sends her warmest regards. We met on a recent holiday.

My address is: 806 Hot Springs Way, Ottawa ON, K1V 1R9.

Regards a tous, John Barclay (Apr 5)

Good Morning. In regards to the last entry; I recall the following names of personnel who have served in Viet Nam under the auspice of ICSC. I am not familiar with their dates except mine( Oct 66 to Apr 67 and Jul 68 to Jul 69). During my tours Maj Jerry FASH, Maj Peter DOWNEY, Cpl Hilton DAUNCEY, and I am aware there was also Cpl Earl MOORE and Cpl ME (JAKE) CLYKE. We were a unique breed and were called THE FORGOTTEN Bas......... Of INDOCHINA. regards, Butch (Montreuil)

PS. I will be in Ottawa for 10 days in early June, if anyone wishes to get together for a coffee, please drop a line. Cheers (Apr 5)

There is a monument here in Windsor listing Canadians killed in Nam. Both Can & US vet's hold a ceremony every year. Greig Hayes (Apr 5)

While wintering the past four months in Panama City Beach, Florida, I had the opportunity to visit the travelling "Healing Wall". This wall is a replica of the permanent Vietnam Wall in Washington, DC, USA. It was brought to the area with the help of many volunteers of various veteran organizations and corporate sponsors from the panhandle area.

The wall was set up in the small community of Beacon Hill, just outside the town of Mexico Beach, Florida, and about 1 hour drive from Panama City Beach. The large ball park was easily accessible with parking and facilities available. The wall itself was set up in panels and information was all recorded on computer so that when researching a particular name, you get a print out of all personal data along with instructions of where to find the name of the deceased soldier. Names were arranged in chronological order of the date of casualty. The Wall tells a story of the daily personal tragedy of war, yet the wrap-around effect provides a closure, like a wound that is closed and healing. Within a given day the names are arranged alphabetically.

MIA' are also listed on the Wall. Perhaps more emotional than I was planning.

My search was for Robert 'Wayne' Kenny, recruit #2498, who enlisted 28 numbers before me in the Canadian Guards in 1959. Wayne served with the 1st Battalion in Germany. Upon return from Germany he joined the US Army in December 1963. In July 1966 he was sent to Vietman and was due to return in February 1967 but was killed in action on January 24,1967. Sgt Kenny was given full military honours and returned to his home for burial in Seeleys Bay, Ontario.

Information regarding his death in Vietnam was recorded as follows: Tour Date: 07/17/66 Casualty Date: 01/24/67

Length/Service (yrs): 03 Age: 24 Home of Record: Canada

Disposition: Body recovered Casualty Type: Hostile, died- Gun, small arms fire Ground Casualty

Country: Vietnam Province: Binh Dihn

Other Stats: Vietnam (1955-1975)

9 million military personnel served during the Vietnam Era, 2.9 million men and women served in the war zone, 1.6 million fought in combat or provided close support

303,704 wounded. - 75,000 permanently disabled - 2,065 missing - 58,245 names on the Wall

  US Army...........38,190 USMC...............14,836 USAF.................2,583 USN...................2,553 US Coast Guard........7

Women in Vietnam: 8 women on the Wall 7 army nurses and 1 Air Force Nurse

260,000 served during the Vietnam Era. 7,000 to 10,000 served in Vietnam.

One thing I wondered if any other members of the Guards were in Vietnam or even how many Canadians served or killed in action. The stats did not provide me with that data.

Submitted for interest. Cpl. R.M.G. (Mick) Splaine SC 138600 (April 4)

message from Gerry Wharton in reference to an article in the VFW (Veterans Foreign Wars) Magazine issue of March 2007 "Canadians in Afghanistan".

1. Paste the following into the Google Search System search box; " VFW • March 2007. Canadians in Afghanistan"

2. or click on: PDF file Canadians in Afghanistan Canadians in Afghanistan

Just a note from Jack Meeks: after 4 years of '"WORD OF MOUTH" advertising, the pins, which now include the Afghanistan Veteran, are selling like crazy. They are now truly A Mari Usque Ad Mare and in several foreign countries. A visit to web page www.webhart.net/veteranspins will show you what they are all about.

If you do order, please ask for "Guards discount". This will save you 20%. Cheers! (March 27)

I'm just getting into this computer thing. While doing some searching I found your info on line. I'm a former Gdsm. I was in both the 1st & 2nd Gds from 1963 - 66. Among my years with you, I made some friends that I have long forgotten about. I noticed in some of your material the name and picture of George Des Champ. I use to hang out with him. I am also wondering about George Turnbull, Bob Hoffman? I live in the Fredericton, N.B. area. My address is Donald MacDougall, 1469 Route 605, Millville, N.B., E6E 2J9. Perhaps you can help me follow the right computer route? Thanks. Donald V. MacDougall ( SG 70290)

A special thank you goes out to all the people who contributed to this page and the posted comments.

I am the niece of Merlin Mackenzie and my mother was his eldest sister. While growing up there were always pictures shared of this handsome young man (in and out of uniform) who was never present at family reunions. When old enough to enquire, the story told was short and tragic. We knew very little details of the events of the accident.

The impact his death had on my Grandparents, other family members and the small community he left was enormous and long lasting.

After over 40 years our family has finally been able to receive the information to so many unanswered questions. Much of this information has been both disturbing and upsetting but certainly welcomed and appreciated so that we can finally put the chapters to the story together. My only wish was that my Grandparents and Merlyns' brothers were also here to participate.

Thank you again and a special Thank You to Bob McCarthy and Ted Chambers for the contribution they made in this story. You guys don’t know how many in my family have been helped by your actions.

Patricia McNeil (daughter of Ada MacKenzie) (March 15)

I remember Merlin as we were in the same Pl. The Pl Comd was Lt Bill Percy. Merlin was a loyal, trustworthy soldier who could be depended upon to complete a task. I have a picture of Merlin and myself going up the gangplank to board the ship to take us to Germany and if the family would like a copy I will only be to happy to send it. We are in Flordia now and will not be home until mid Apr. Mac MacEachern (March 15)

 A final tribute to a Guardsman

I was stationed in Soest, Germany (1957/59), with the 2nd battalion Canadian Guards.

One evening in 1958, I was at the base movie theatre. Prior to the movie I was having a chat with a fellow GDSM and we were talking about our home towns in New Brunswick. Suddenly someone from behind tapped my shoulder, "Hey! Are you from New Brunswick?" "Yes" I replied. "Wow! So am I, my name is Merlin MacKenzie, can we we meet after the movie so we can chat about home?"

After the movie we were to meet at the pub just outside the the main gate. I told Merlin, I had to report for transport duty, and that we would meet shortly after.

I no sooner arrived at the transport office when I was approached by the duty officer, T. Chambers. I was told to get an ambulance as there had been a fatality just outside the gate.

When we I arrived outside the gate I couldn't believe my eyes, it was Merlin.

I assisted the duty officer in placing his body on the stretcher. Night time fell upon us during the drive to the British hospital in Iserlhone, Germany.

The drive for me was extremely emotional. I had a hard time containing myself, the duty officer in turn gave me comfort. Through the years, this had such a profound impact on me, I vowed that some day I would search for a member of the MacKenzie family so that I can share my story with them.

Well I finally found Merlin`s sister, and to think it is only 38 miles from where I live. This was truly a touching moment for me, and now I have newly found friends.

I am pleased to announce that on May 6th, 2007 at the Royal Canadian Legion in Bathurst, New Brunswick, a plaque will be placed by the MacKenzie family on the Memorial Wall in honor of GDSM Merlin MacKenzie. The Commander of the Royal Canadian New Brunswick Regiment, and myself as Sgt-at-Arms, will present to the Mackenzie family, Merlin`s Special Service Medal (SSM).

This day will be Merlin`s day...........Lest we forget.

Thank You Gdsm . JSR (Bob) McCarthy (March 14)

Gdsm Bob McCarthy has a very good memory.The facts he has presented are very close to my own about the event.and I have some more to contribute.

Both my wife and I were on a tour of Ireland the summer before last .We were at a dinner visiting with another Canadian couple. Marie had mentioned that we had been in Germany in 1958. Carolyn Shirley said that she had a brother with the Guard's but he had been killed and I finished her statement "He had been struck by a taxi just outside the gate". She was thunderstruck..How could you know that? I replied that I had been the Picquet Officer and had been responsible for identifying the body and delivering it to the BMH in Iserlohn . The duty driver and I secured the body to a stretcher and wrapped it in a blanket and drove to BMH through a very dark and dreary night. We arrived back in camp after first light

Carolyn and her husband Sam, knew none of the details, and we sat up most of the night talking . This carried on in the bus the next day. We departed close friends

Photo credit Trevor Heavens (Canadian Post War and Dependents)

In the fall I got into my slides here in Yuma and found one of Merlyn's grave in Hanover, one of two graves, his and that of Lt Ray Reding side by side. I had been chief mourner at Ray's funeral the previous week. I sent copies of both to them. I am delighted that Bob McCarthy and the Canadian Legion have found a way to honour a Guardsman who lost his life so far from home. I cannot be there but you may be sure my spirit will be.

A Mari Usque Ad Mari Ted Chambers (March 14)

Capt(ret'd) Charles Adams, CD, LRAM, ARCM will be AT HOME to old friends on the occasion of his 90th birthday at 1400hrs Sat 10March07 in the Lincoln and Welland Regt Officers' Mess, Armoury, Lake St., St Catherines, ON (Mar 2)

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Capt Charles (Charlie) Adams was the first WO1 and the last Director of Music, of The Canadian Guards Band. In 1930 Charlie Adams joined The Lincoln Regiment [*], [NPAM**] Band in St Catharines. Ont. Later he would also organize and become the Bandmaster of the Strathroy Ontario Band. In 1938 Charlie enrolled in The Royal Canadian Regiment as a Bandsman and served with The RCR until the mid 1940's. He would then serve with the RCC of Sigs Band. In the 1950's Charlie Adams served with the1st Canadian Infantry Brigade Band which in time became The Canadian Guards Band. Jas Haley

* Now known as The Lincoln & Welland Regt.

**Non-Permanent Active Militia

All mystery parade comments now on the photo site only..click -->here

I need witnesses to a neck injury I received during basic training. The injury happened during PT., on a trampoline in the fall of 1957. I can be reached at my E-mail, jean.plummer@sympatico.ca Thank you for posting this. sincerely Gary Plummer. (Feb 7)

Re: 2 Gds parade: The right marker looks like Pat Higgins.Then there are the easy ones to identify LCol Price, RSM Lee and the third officer from the right looks like Maj Marchessault who was OC 9Coy. Blessings, Mac ( GEORGE MACEACHERN) (Feb 7)

Good afternoon all, I am hoping that the individual Regiments and Units can assist the Museum with a new project. We are in the midst of finalizing new vehicle park signage, and we're having a difficult time finding good action shots of the vehicles. I have searched the Internet, and contacted the National Archives, Canadian War Museum, and all the CF museums in Canada, with very little positive response.

If your Unit or Regiment has any pictures (b&w or colour; electronic or hard copy) on file, pls let us know ASAP.

Thanks in advance for your time and interest....

M211 Dump Truck, M217 Fuel Browser, M133 Kitchen Truck, M543 Recovery Vehicle, M220 Shop Van, High Power Command Post

HUP, FAT, Ferret MK 1, M38A1 Jeep, Dodge D60L Truck, M37 Cargo 3/4 ton Truck, M152 Van, M43 Field Ambulance, Bombardier Skidoo

M29 Weasel, "Nodwell", Honest John, Bailey Bridge, "Catwalk", Dakota, ASU 57, Cougar, M113, C1 Leopard, Iltis, M4A3E8 Sherman, Centurion MK5

Anne Lindsay, Museologist, CFB Petawawa Military Museum and Canadian Airborne Forces Museum, CSN: 677-6034

Commercial: (613) 687 - 5511, ext. 6034...www.petawawamuseums.com (Feb 5, 2007)

I was going to say it was Innisfeld (or field) Airport in Gagetown as well until I studied the picture a little bit more. First of all the tarmac isn't wide enough to be a runway, (And there was only one as I recall) and the second reason is that we stood on the tarmac for the divisional parades. You could hear the loud bang when everyone came to attention at the same time. There was something like ten thousand on parade. Maybe it was more, or less.

I agree though that it is a 1959 Chevy. And I also agree it's most likely a Brigade parade because as I recall there were more people on the saluting base at the Divisional parade. Also they are carrying the FN, and we didn't get that until late 1957??. Maybe if someone could identify the band to the left it would help. (Looks to me like they all got "pin head's"). And then again I could be completely wrong.

Anyway I have a big picture of the 2nd Battalion on the Divisional Parade in 1957 (here) if you are interested. Might be fun to try to identify some of the faces, like Silver Lee and Cliff Ludtke. Let me know. Don Hilchey

Good point reference the tarmac width. I couldn't enlarge the photo to pick out the rifles. I think the Band is the Royal Canadian Dragoons. Jas (Feb1)

See the photo by clicking here

The Sgt is Ron Parker (re; Dusty's photos and the recruitment poster)

Mac ( GEORGE MACEACHERN) Jan 25

Hello Jas, talked with Ambrose Dwyer on the Smith flag, Ambrose rotated through Valcartier with 4th Guards in route to Korea, I was at Valcartier and I may have seen the flag in or around the Officers mess 3 Cdn Gds., other than that we don't know for sure. Henry Campbell

We have our Guards souvenier spoons, just in. They look good. They are in a plastic case and are $8.00 each. Terry Dexter (Jan 19)

I believe that Al’s premises are too full of conjecture. It looks to me that the two colours are red over white not grey.

What else? .......The old RCIC flag was red and white but quartered not diagonally and it had a yellow maple leaf with a black bayonet. But that is not really significant here.

In terms of when the flag was made; by its sheen, it seems to be made of silk or nylon. Up until the 1960s most flags (Excl Colours) were made of wool bunting and when viewed up close were very roughly made. That is not the case here. My guess is that is was made in the 70’s or later, ruling out any WWI or WWII provenance.

Of where it was made, it is certainly a well made flag, note the veins on the leaf, so was probably not made up by a local seamstress. As a guy who has purchased literally thousands of flags in my Public Works job, I find the material interesting, particularly the 1 in the maple leaf and the sword that is made of some sparkly material. I have never seen this used in conventional flag construction. My guess is that it was made a firm who do not normally make flags, possibly in the Middle East or Asia (Pakistan?) Dennis did not serve in 4th Bn in Korea so it was not likely to have been made in Korea or Japan. Also feel that it is too well made, thus too expensive, to be used as a “gimmick type” flag used at something like a Cadet Summer Camp.

The Crusaders sword is also interesting it looks more European in design than what we normally see on Canadian representations of that type of sword. I wonder if Dennis might have had it made up on some UN tour when he served with the Poles or whatever and it represents their joint subunit? Both Canada and Poland have the same national colours, that’s why I singled them out.

And so you see that I have criticized Al for conjecture and out done him by a mile! Sorry Al. Gerry W (Jan 13)

Just a wild-assed guess but it makes some kind of sense -- could the pennant be somehow related to I Canadian Corps? Perhaps as an unofficial or temporary camp pennant?

The diagonal split would seem to indicate the conjunction of two triangles representing divisional colors, one crimson (1st Canadian Division) and one French Grey (3rd Canadian Division), the maple leaf obviously denotes "Canadian" and the numeral 1 is obviously indicative of the first . . . something. The silver symbol in the right of the pennant appears to be a Crusader sword but what that indicates (Op Crusader?, unlikely.) is truly a mystery. There were I Canadian Corps in both world wars and the div patches appeared in the first one (as an aside, the PPCLI based their regimental color on the French Grey of 3rd Cdn Div following their formation in 1914) so that kind of narrows the time frame down.

Can the auspices of DHist be it enlisted on this project? Perhaps there's something in the memorabilia of Gen. Guy Grenville Simmonds from the time he commanded 1 Cdn Corps in WWII and maybe the curator of the Canadian War Museum might have access to that.

Cheers.Al (Ditter, Jan 13)

Here is another challenge to start off 2007! We would like some background on the flag shown here. If anyone has knowledge of the heritage involved here, we would appreciate that info.

You can reply via this email link. Along the same line...did anyone here participate in a musical group called the "Cranium Cripples" ? (Jan 11)

I am requesting an 81/2 X 11 of each of the Regimental Colours and the Queens Colours for each of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th Battalions. The photo will be smaller than the above size but I need the colours to be on that size colour copy paper so I can go to our local colour copier store and have them reproduced. I am requesting that they be reproduced on good photo copy paper. The Atlantic branch will cover any cost for reproduction and shipping. We currently have the 2nd Bn Colours but would like to have a copy of all 4 Bn of both their Regimental and Queens Colours.

If you are able to meet this request please forward an overview of the cost. Thankyou, Terry Dexter (Jan 8)

Gerry W. informs us that the 3rd & 4th Bn were never granted Colours.

I'm over 65 and the Armed Forces say I'm too old to track down terrorists. (You can't be older than 35 to join the military.)

They've got the whole thing backwards. Instead of sending 18-year-olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.

for starters:

Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds.

Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. If we can't kill the enemy we'll complain them into submission. "My back hurts! I'm hungry! Where's the remote?"

An 18-year-old hasn't had a legal beer yet and you shouldn't go to war until you're at least old enough to drink. The average old guy, on the other hand, has consumed 126,000 gallons of beer, and a jaunt through the desert heat with a beer and an M-60 would do wonders for the old beer belly. (Note there are 24 hours in a day and 24 bottles in a case..another convenient way to measure time!)

 An 18-year-old doesn't like to get up before 10 a.m.

 Old guys always get up early to pee.

If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we like soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns.

We like them almost better than naps.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training. I can hear the Drill Sgt now, "Get down and give me ... er . one."

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to carry on a conversation, and to wear pants without the top of his butt crack showing and his shorts sticking out. He's hasn't figured out that a pierced tongue catches food particles, and that a 400-watt speaker in the back seat of a Honda can rupture an eardrum, and that a baseball cap has a brim to shade eyes, not the back of his head.

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten cowards who attacked us on September 11. The last thing an enemy would want to see right now is a couple of million old farts with attitudes.

Share this with your senior friends. It's purposely in big type so you can read it. (Moe Bergeron Dec20)

Any gathering in the South, would like to hear from ex Gds and Provost friends here. I'm in Palm Harbor 727 9438296, Mike McMillan Gds 62 -63 Petawawa (Dec 19)

When the list of Members of the Regiment that have died in the past year was read at the AGM in Bathurst in October 2006 I realized how few are left. It is important that the children and grandchildren be made aware of why their fathers and grandfathers joined the Canadian Guards. They too, are part of "THE FAMILY."

That being said, I suggest that we establish an "Associate Membership" category. That way our sons, daughters and their children will be able to ensure that the history of THE CANADIAN GUARDS will not be forgotten.

Chris Beattie (Dec 16)

Bob Murphy can be contacted via the Guards Net, click on "Contact us" Jas (Dec 16)

Recruit Platoon Photo Project Update 24 Nov 2006

Fellow members,

It’s been about three weeks since the project started; to date I’ve collected about 20 Recruit Pl Photos - some were sent to me which I identified by Pl # and year as provided by the sender. Others were taken from a CD provided by the Atlantic Branch webmaster (Robie). They are not identified. In addition some members have sent other than recruit photos which I’ve saved and have in a different album. I’ve asked Gerry to post a link to the albums on the national web site to show you the number collected so far. If you can identify any of the platoons listed as Photo #1 etc. please sent an email with that info.

As the link has a time limit for access, if when you click it asks for a password use (cdngds) that should open it for you. Some members whom have already seen this link have observed the photos are not large enough to identify individuals very well. I want to point out that what you see is not the finished product, it’s purpose is only to show you which photos have been collected.

The link and my e-mail address are only good till Sunday 3 Dec, I have rejoined the work force and will be relocating to Kingston On. Once I’m established in my new location I will continue with the project from there, I will provide contact info through the websites.

If you have a photo you want to submit or have information for me please do so by next Sunday if not hold it till I make contact from Kingston.

I want to thank all those who have contacted me so far via E-mail, Phone, or Post, your interest in the project is encouraging and I had some interesting conversations.

Mike

Hi Gerry, I thought you'd like to see this, if you haven't already, and, maybe, send it out to all. It's a great piece of work by someone, as it is not signed. Every Canadian from coast to coast should read it. Especially, those in power on "The Hill" in Ottawa. Frank Rodgers (Nov 23)

 Click--> A Different Christmas Poem

Take a look at this site, its about George Elliott (2nd Bn) Would a notation in the the Comments section inviting people to have a look be appropriate? Jas November 18

CPROC RSMs

Gerry, What a treat it was to see the pictures of CWO George Elliott. The man remains a larger than life presence, even in retirement. He was a true soldier and the Regiment of Canadian Guards was well and truly the better for his service as our MP sergeant in the 2nd Battalion. The affinity ran both ways and I believe he has one of the most complete collections of Canadian Guards memorabilia extant.

My uncle was in the C Pro C during WWII and he taught me that the corps' motto was "Discipline by Example" and there never was a better exemplar than George Elliott. He has my eternal respect and the photos of his graduation class inspection show that this is one soldier who simply will not fade away.

Cheers. Al Ditter Nov 23

Recruit Platoon Photo Recovery Project

My Fellow Guardsmen,

You all will recall that the hallway of the Regimental Depot Headquarters was lined with Rec PL Graduation Photos. Unfortunately those hardcopy photos have been lost. Most of you, like me, may have purchased a copy of your platoon photo and I suspect like mine it's in some old photo album at the bottom of a trunk or up in the attic.

The Atlantic Branch is going to try to recover as many of those photos as possible. I have offered my services to the Branch President, Terry Dexter to oversee this project. We are going to attempt to capture these photos thru the internet using e-mail; to be successful we need your help, so here is what you have to do.

Find your copy of the photo, Scan it using low resolution ( most of those photos are 8X10). Attach the digital copy to an e mail and send it to: bambrickmichael@rogers.com Please include the year of graduation and your Course Number if you know it; mine for example "1963 Crs No 6302" . Do not try to put names to it if its not already done.

If you don't have a Scanner you can have it done at Staples office supplies, Wal-Mart, or any photography store. They'll put it on a disc or they may e mail it to me for you. This will take a bit of doing on your part so I'll thank your in advance for your effort. I look forward to hearing from all of you in the near future. We Can Do this!!!

To quote Black Bear when commanding 9 Coy " When the going gets tough, the tough get going"

Michael L Bambrick, 15 Hayward Court , Fredericton, NB E3A 0A4 (506) 455-0372 (Nov 9)

Mike

Did I really say anything that profound? Seriously I consider that this is indeed a great idea. I saw something similar at the Airborne Reunion a few years ago in Edmonton and it worked well. At the recent Atlantic meeting and AGM. I was given a picture of my first platoon out of the depot. It was of number 1 pl, commanded for depot phase by Roy Bonnie. It was taken on 28 Nov 57 and consisted of squads 181, 182 and 183. I then took it over, carried on for the recruit phase for 12 weeks, then took the pl back to the First Battalion and then on to Germany in 1959.

I also have another similar picture taken earlier I believe, as it has Reggie Thexton as CO as opposed to Milton Gregg. I am not sure. Jim MacWha our old armourer in Germany found it in an antique store somewhere in the Valley. There is no other identification on it but I recognize some of the faces with Cpl Freddy Hirt as one of the instructors, and recruit Wayne Northrup right behind the CO.

The best of luck with the project and I would appreciate it if you were to keep me info'd on how things are going.

Cheers

Ian Douglas (Ursus Americanus)

Saturday, November 11, 2006, I will attend the annual Remembrance Day ceremony happening on the British Columbia Parliament Building's lawn. I will be carrying a sign with the below statement.

LEST YOU FORGET
600 OF
CANADIAN‘S FINEST
  WERE VICTIMIZED
BY
 G.O.C. D.N.D AND A.E.C.L.
WHILE V.A.C. AND R.C.L.
LOOK ON
WE WON’T FORGET

Your support is welcomed. Bren Keetch (recruit# 1953)

Good afternoon gentlemen/ladies

Tom Johnson , CAF retired (Royal Canadian Dragoons ) checking in with some pictures of interest for you.

I have recently returned from a trip to Cyprus. While there I visited and placed new Canadian Flags beside each of our nine Canadian UN Peacekeeping soldiers buried there at the British Garrison Cemetery in Dhykelia. I took the following pictures for your information and archives.

The pictures of all Nine graves begins with 1./ Tpr Campbell (RCD), 2./ Lt Edmonds (C intC),3./ Rflm Hoare, (QoR)

4./ Gdsm Chartier ( Cdn Guards)

5./ Pte Bernard (RHC Black watch) 6./ Tpr Nass (Viii Hussars) 7./ Cpl Redmond (RCR) 8./ Cpl Salmon (CProC) 9./ Pte Lerue (RHC Black Watch)

Is there any way you can get these pictures forwarded on to the families of these men for me

Thanking you

"Trapper" Tom Johnson,19 Green Rd, Westcock, NB, E4L 2J2. tomjohn@eastlink.ca (Nov 7)

Next month, on November 4th, friends and acquaintances will gather at a Retirement Dinner to honour Percy Lewis Price, who after having served his Sovereign and Country, and fellow citizens for more than fifty years, will "March off" and join the ranks of retirees.

As Percy "marches off" perhaps he will recall 14 Jun 1956, the day of his arrival at The Guards Depot in Camp Petawawa, and became Recruit No 806 of The Regiment of Canadian Guards.

No doubt Percy will also recall his Guards Recruit Training...his fellow recruits and platoon NCO's... the forging of enduring friendships...his posting and serving with the 4th Battalion in Ipperwash, and when the 4th was no more, returning to Petawawa to serve with the 2nd Battalion... and his tours of duty in Germany and Cyprus...and of course, his decision to leave the Canadian Forces and pursue other endeavours.

One such endeavour Percy would take on was the responsibilities of a Legion Service Officer. For 22 years he dedicated himself to assisting veterans and members of the Canadian Forces with their disability pension issues, or with anything else where he could provide a helping hand.

Percy's career in the Canadian Forces, long time member of the Royal Canadian Legion and many years experience and dedication as a Legion Service Officer no doubt was instrumental in his well deserved appointment to the Veterans Review and Appeal Board in 2000.

Next month, November 2006, with the ending of his appointment, Percy leaves behind a legacy of high achievement of service to his fellow veterans and Canadian Forces members ... "and we shall remember him"

To paraphrase our unofficial Regimental motto...."for the labourer is worthy of his hire" Jas Haley

Please Note:
You are invited to forward Best Wishes via email to altitude.marlene@gmail.com or if you wish,

Cards to Joe Drouin Enterprises Ltd c/o Percy Price 10 - 22 de Valcourt Gatineau, QC, J8T 8G8

Would like to know the wherabouts of FRANK MEANEY. Frank was in the 1st guards and from newfoundland. NEIL JARVIS.(Oct 21)

I just spent a couple enjoyable days in Picton where I was hosted by Cory Walraven. Beyond a visit to Cory and family (they came to Maritimes this past summer), I was blessed with having coffee and then lunch with Sol Robbins (the most willing person I have known when it comes to lending a shoulder to cry on - the guy is tireless and should be sainted) and wife Eileen, Glen and Diane Splaine, Doug Rye, Roger St Jean and Bill ?(formerly @ Transport).During coffee we had Bob Hall and my one time pl comd when he was-Lt Meharg stopped by. Serving coffee at the old Armories coffee shop was a niece (?) of Barney Pearson whom I regretfully was told is deceased (he was the Pl Sgt at time Lt Meharg was Pl comd). One of our comrades was Mr Apap whom I understands lives in Malta?.

Some names came up whom I would ask if anyone knows where they are now, Wally Braniff, Archie Moore, Stan Rideout, Fast Eddy Wellstood, the only Coy Comd I knew who only wanted a six foot folding table with a red blanket on top for a desk and would not promote you if you had never spent a night in the meathead hotel.

Please excuse any errors in current or past writings as memory lapses are part of daily routine and unless my NOK proofs for me it can come out looking like overspill from garbage pick up.

Regards to all, Ted Mason-Hampton NB (Oct 18)

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I remember as an Army Cadet, I attended Ipperwash in 1968, I remember the Camp RSM, a fellow named Bennett. I recall he was from the Canadian Guards. Do you have any information on him? His image and his voice have stuck with me over these many years. You could hear him from the front of the parade square to the rear, a voice ranging over 1200 cadets.

Randolph Rice, Warrant Officer, Combat Camera (June 25) (Anyone who can help here??)

Any other ex-forces who have served at Senalager, trying to contact old colleagues MARTIN HAWKINS (Jun 18)

Looking for a friend and neighbour who was in Germany (Fort York) Soest, during 1960-63. He was a Cpl with the Guards and his name was/is (Red) McNeil. Any assistance would be appreciated. LCol JR Palmer Retired (Jun 17)

To BGen Ian Douglas and Major Gerry Wharton I wish to express my deepest gratitude for the lobbying you two accomplished in the placing of our Regimental and Company Colours at Government House (Rideau Hall). On behalf of my Family, Thank You Both. Nick Puddicombe (Jun 17)

Our Colours look so graceful and peaceful in the new location that they now stand. It takes special people to be concerned with matters of such importance, keep up the great work. R.V."Mitch"Mitchell.

 Feel Free> rvmitch@iprimus.com.au (From Down Under.) (Jun 17)

Loved reading Moe Bergeron's comments on the "Old Farts" "Thank You" from QMSI (WO2) Quartermaster Sgt Major Instructor William "Sam" Magee....84 this July 70 years of Cadet/Military this Sep 70 years of community/youth this Sep....We made history in Physical Fitness & Sports...e.g. Guards Depot Boxing....8 Novice winners & 5 Open Winners, Camp Championships. (Jun 17)

I received the attached message from Government House re: the moving of the Colours. The have certainly listened to us and to my eye the display looks great. Ian Douglas (Click here to see the new display of our Regimental and company colours at Rideau Hall) (June 16)

Cruising just East of Revelstoke BC on Hwy 1 last week when a large Cougar crossed the road in front of me. Couldn’t help reflecting back and thinking about an old buddy who hailed from Revelstoke and throughout his days with 2nd Battalion had the nickname of “Cougar” Dunn. It was in fact Roger Dunn who if I recall correctly spent most of his time with the Battalion in 7 Coy. Roger and I enlisted at the same time at 11PD in Vancouver and were two of only a handful of British Columbians in the battalion at the time. I am not positive but I think Roger may be living in Carp ON.. So if you are out there Roger and happen to read this just know that everytime I cross the bridge in Revelstoke you're on my mind. Hard to believe over half a century has gone by. Cheers Bob. (Charlton, June 16/07)

MERLIN’S MEMORIAL

On May 6 my two older sisters, my husband and I attended a memorial ceremony at the Herman J. Good Legion in Bathurst. On this occasion Bob McCarthy, dedicated a plaque in Merlin’s memory. (I think this was his plan for many years) We were also presented with his Nato Special Service medal. It was a very emotional time for all of us but we are so appreciative of Bob McCarthy for making all this happen.

I am the youngest sister of Gdsm. Merlin MacKenzie and I have been overwhelmed with the chain of events after 50 years. First meeting Ted Chambers and his wife while on a tour in Ireland, then awhile later receiving a phone call from Bob McCarthy. I can’t tell you what it would have meant to our parents to know the details that we now have. Ted and Bob have answered so many questions for us. I have read your complete Canadian Guards site. A very informative site and well done!

It was interesting to read about the Queen Frederica as Merlin sailed on it. We are always looking for details and would certainly appreciate the picture that Mac MacEachern has and I will be emailing Joe Comeau.

To our friends Ted and Bob Thank-You. We will always have a special place in our hearts for the 2nd Canadian Guards.

Carolyn Shirley (May 30)

Hello there all, recently returned from the RCL Ontario Command Convention at London. All went well and a former Cpl. Gdsm. Gordie Collins Guard Co.(7 Coy) was on the Ontario Color Party, still looks great on parade doing the job, bending the knee and shooting the foot. He certainly stood out and led by example. Checking the e-mail a few nights ago I received a picture of yours truly, Cpl Harry Jones Pl. Sgt. and Lt Tovall Pl. Commander inspecting my rifle at Senalager Germany 1958. This picture went across the country in most dailys as my mother picked it up in the Cape Breton Record (Post). Good news travels around. The fellow who sent it is Captain Ret. R.T. Walsh RCR Assn. He is a member of the Ontario P.R. team and has been with our committee for some years now. I asked to be replaced since I have had that chair since 1993 and this has been done. A big job for younger legs..

Cheers to all . Henry Campbell

On a sadder note I must report the passing of Lorne W. McGlashing -2nd. WW Vet, Korea Vet, and Peace Keeper with the Guards. Legion and veterans gathering at the Malcolm & Deavitt funeral home Pembroke Wed. 30 May 07 at 7:30 P.M. Funeral services are on Thursday but do not have the details , should be in Wed. paper. (See SOS section button at left) (May 30)

Excellent Spring Newsletter. The tributes to General Roger Rowley were well expressed and a pleasure to read. Please pass on my gratitude to JDB and all of the other contributors.

Does anyone have a resume´ of the General's military career following WWII? I recall him being in Petawawa with 1 Cdn Div when I believe it was commanded by Rockingham. I would be interested in knowing more about his activities and appointments if anyone can share that information with me.

Cheers. Al Klassen aklassen9@cogeco.ca (May 27)

I was McKenzie's best friend when we were stationed in Germany 1957. We were together all day on the day of his accident. I returned to the barracks earlier, he decided to make another stop on his way back. That was the last time I saw him. This has been on my mind for the last fifty years.

I have pictures of the funeral procession leaving Fort York and also a picture of Merlin, if anyone is interested in a copy you can get in contact with me and I will send a copy. e-mail harnroscomeau@yahoo.com

Joseph Harold Comeau (May 26)

Great to read the comments from Butch and Bob about Indo China. During my time In Siagon and Hanoi (61-62) served with many great soldiers namly Maj Kearns who was the Security Officer and a Team Site Officer Bill Pippy. Gen Bennet was the senior officer. I remember the times I served as courier between Siagon and Hanoi. Let me say the first time for me was a white knuckles flight, after that it was a piece of cake.

Checking my old barrack box came acoss the cerificate that was presented on leaving Siagon. For all those who served knows what FBI means.

Malcolm (Mac) MacEachern, 2 Guards 1957-69 (May 11)

I viewed with interest the comments on subj memorial by Cpl (Mick) Splaine and wish to pass on some info regarding same. I visited the Washington Vietnam War Memorial for the 4th time last fall and had the opportunity to speak with one of the Memorial's guides, who are all Vietnam Vets. I was interested also in the number of Cdns who fought in subj war. He informed me that more than 20,000 Cdns served in Vietnam with the American forces. He also informed me that 110 Canadians were killed in action. I thought the first figure was high but can only assume being a guide his figures are somewhat accurate. As a point of interest for those who don't know, Gen. Dextraze's son who was with the American army was killed in action in Vietnam. I believe he was killed while the Gen was CDS. I found his son's name in the Locator Book and located the name on the Wall. Anyone who has ever visited the Memorial knows how quiet and sombre everyone is around the Memorial. To see the vets, family and friends with tears in their eyes tracing the names of their killed comrades, loved ones or friends is a very moving sight and one not easily forgotten. A must see if you are visiting Washington.

Bob Garsnell RCASC, a friend of the Cdn Guards. I took my Jr. NCO Course at the Guards Depot while stationed in Petawawa early 60s. Willie Colbourn was my Pl Sgt. I believe he went on to become an RSM. (May 8/07)

A tribute. Click here

I am new to this computer , but I was the 2nd rec to land at Petawawa Ont. to start training at the 2nd bn. Paul Paquette later a piper was there before me, the next member I can't remember but Cpl (M) Woodman gave us our early training in one of the rooms in Victoria barracks. After this a lot of new members came in; this put the end to our wet canteen and our going to town. Just a memory of March 1954.

 I have been a member of the Cdn Guards Assc, Ottawa branch since 1972 or 1973 - found the add in the Legion magazine. Add was by Von Cameron . Still a member, also last year I joined the Altantic Br. Marilyn and I enjoy the reunions very much; we meet a lot of old and new friends. Note for RRR, Fn Rifle Drill Team at Kingston. I was also on the team, could not find the news letter that RRR wrote about this.

Gdsm MacKinnon, D.P Amherst N S (April 17)

There is little doubt the color photo is of the 4CIBG in Sennalager 1960. It is the 1st Battalion Canadian Guards on the right with the Black Watch to its left (who replaced the Van Doo Fall 59), Bde Comd had an American Model Chev as a Staff Car. The Band is the RCD who rotated back to Canada the following year. The black and white photo of the 2nd Battalion was taken in Gagetown in 1957 prior to our departure for Europe. The Battalion is led by Lt Col Price followed by the Adjutant Capt Gavin, the RSM GH Lee and the Right Marker is DSgt Ludtke. Note the troops are carrying the Leenfield Rifle, we took the FN to Europe with us in the Fall of 57. It should be noted that up to and including 1959 we Canadians had no summer Bush clothing in Europe and the only difference between winter and summer dress was that in the summer we removed our tunics and ties and opened the top button, rolled up our sleeves and wore armlets. Battle Dress was the order of the day year round in the good old BAOR. Lots of talcum powder. In the field we wore black coveralls and whatever else you could find at the war surplus to keep warm. Cheers Bob Charlton.

Bob, thanks so much for the reminder. I do remember also vividly the courier duty, also John Annand had just arrived to replace Gerry Fash. We should get together some day. regards from the comox valley, Butch (Apr 14)

Nice to see Butch's comments on serving in Viet Nam, I also was a member of the F B I from May l968 to May 1969. After spending seven months in Hanoi went South at end December 68, then vividly remember flying back into Hanoi with Butch on Friday the 13th January 69 but this time he had to stay and I flew back out to Laos the same night and later that evening enjoyed a couple of cool ones with my friend, the late Len Trudell. That was the last time I saw Butch. Great memories. If you are ever Calgary-way, there is a Tims just down the street. Cheers Bob Charlton. (Apr 12)

The biggest Military Parade ever held in Canada at the time was a # 1 Division Parade held in Gagetown.It was the summer of 1959,and I was on that parade.After returning to Petawawa from Gagetown that summer we were in a hurry-up mode.We were leaving from the village station Oct,16/1959 for Germany.

I remember so well each and every unit getting there words of command. The French Officer speaking in broken English giving the command of fix bayonets,.."Royal 22nd Regiment de Canada".

This was not only a Parade to remember,.but a time in my life that will always be precious. How well I also remember being in the first platoon to come out of Depot,and then go to # 1Section, # 1Platoon, # 1Company, 1st Battalion, of # 1 Division. How can you forget that.

  "Thank You Guards For Such A Wonderful Life."

 Regards. R.V."Mitch"Mitchell. SF.98889 (Apr 10)

I just spent a couple enjoyable days in Picton where I was hosted by Cory Walraven. Beyond a visit to Cory and family (they came to Maritimes this past summer), I was blessed with having coffee and then lunch with Sol Robbins (the most willing person I have known when it comes to lending a shoulder to cry on - the guy is tireless and should be sainted) and wife Eileen, Glen and Diane Splaine, Doug Rye, Roger St Jean and Bill ?(formerly @ Transport).During coffee we had Bob Hall and my one time pl comd when he was-Lt Meharg stopped by. Serving coffee at the old Armories coffee shop was a niece (?) of Barney Pearson whom I regretfully was told is deceased (he was the Pl Sgt at time Lt Meharg was Pl comd). One of our comrades was Mr Apap whom I understands lives in Malta?.

Some names came up whom I would ask if anyone knows where they are now, Wally Braniff, Archie Moore, Stan Rideout, Fast Eddy Wellstood, the only Coy Comd I knew who only wanted a six foot folding table with a red blanket on top for a desk and would not promote you if you had never spent a night in the meathead hotel.

Please excuse any errors in current or past writings as memory lapses are part of daily routine and unless my NOK proofs for me it can come out looking like overspill from garbage pick up.

Regards to all, Ted Mason-Hampton NB (Oct 18)

Koodoos to Ted Mason. The clock is ticking. We've less than 20 months to go before the 50th Anniversary. Still not a word from our President, save passing the buck, or from National Legion Headquarters, save being referred to as a "barrack barrister", regarding the slaughter of our comrades who obeyed orders and cleaned up AECL's Chalk River 1958 folly. The sense of fighting is still within me and I'll be darned if I will take the Chalk River matter to my grave with me. I urge all 1st Canadian Guards to stand up, speak up and NOT put up any more with the derelict-of-duty our supposed leaders are displaying. Bren Keetch (Oct 14, 2006) (Pres Ian has contacted Bren directly)

Before the toxin subjects (below), I report that Joe Martin and I have made contact.

Re the toxins:

I have just had second Prostate invasion which VAC told me qualified as a claim. Then the fun began; lets first go back some few years.

I felt that the Gagetown spraying of toxins may have impacted my total body pain experienced for decades now (plus other problems). VAC stated later -you were not posted there. I responded ,we as Guardsmen and 3 RCR spent more time in Gagetwon trg area than a great number who were posted to the brick buildings of the base.

The last rule they developed is that people could only be affected if you were in the vicinity of spray in June of either 1966 or 67. The wonderful thing about this is that the VAC rep I spoke to on the phone knew nothing, beyond someone told her these were the new rules. When pushed she said it was "DND"; no msg number, no copies given them, not even sure if it was the mystery "Mr DND".

However, I attended briefings(feb/06) organized by Federal Govt in early 2006 (following election) which were given by Dr Furlong, the one time Minister of Health for NB. He told us at the briefings that the agents used were active for decades and that tests as recently as 2004 revealed their presence.

More agent Purple was sprayed in CFB than Orange and it is reported that Purple is more deadly.

Any Gdsm or 3 RCR who at the same time as I did spent much time wallowing around the trg area in the mud of tank tracks (ie: Gdsm Kerr and I, as RECCE Pl members testing Bn HQ defences) or along with retired RSM Ken Zinck who was my "Hoochie mate" during a Bn ex when a hoochie building competition took place (using local natural materal) or when 3RCR provided enemy for 8CH, we all have as much or more potential to be impacted by the toxins than the jock posted to the base to conduct pool parties (oops those were in Petawawa) and VAC hauls one rabbit after another to exclude us.

With all those, we should have with political contacts and clout. We should not be over run by clerical staff of VAC who appear to have the power to shut us out.

Are we all aware that the Federal Govt multi years ago paid a local farmer some $250,000.00 for crop damage because of these same sprays we lived with?

Are we also aware that they already paid full benefits to the former CO of a Black Watch unit. It is safe to say he may have spent more time in his CP than crawling on all fours in the muck (in fairness to him, we were told he fought the case long and hard). Others were also compensated.

After Viet Nam the US Govt finally decided to compensate every person who served in that campaign.

Why are we treated the way we are by an arm supposed to be there to help us (Veteran Affairs). It almost appears that they help those who suck up while those who can't bring themselves to do so just get plowed under.

If any one feels they may also be suffering from the impact of Gagetown toxins or AECL Radiation (or both as I have enjoyed) and need info as to anything I may be aware of, just call @ (506) 832-0510 or e-mail -- tedruth@NB.sympatico.ca

Best to all, Ted (Mason) (Oct 14, 2006)

Colleagues, This is an excellent tribute to the sacrifice of our fallen soldiers and their families.

http://members.shaw.ca/travner/CFTribute800x600.wmv

Lest we forget! Ed Gosden (Sept 4, needs high speed connection)

I like your website! Lets hope the Canadian Guards will be activated again.

Darrel Sundholm (Aug 26)

We are 21 months away from celebrating the 50th anniversary of the near nuclear meltdown at Atomic Energy of Canada Limited’s (AECL) Chalk River Ontario Nuclear Facility.

Of the estimated 600 Military personnel from Camp Petewawa and elsewhere, who were dispatched to Chalk River to clean up the HOT WASTE, few are alive today to talk about it. Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) has consistently denied us survivors, some suffering acute ill health, pension benefits. Rumor has it though, that a couple of our deceased comrades were pensioned by VAC for their stint in Chalk River. That is not good enough.

Further, and to add injury, VAC has, over the years, used our tax dollars to hire scientific spin-doctors to develop reports, contrary to world wide science and data that clearly support our claim, that suggest our ill-health can not be blamed on being exposed to deadly doses of radio- active waste.

There are, lest we forget, countless numbers of survivor spouses and children of our deceased comrades who, to this day, suffer injustice and ill health at the hands of VAC.

Yours truly,

Bren Keetch, 1st Canadian Guards, 1958/1966, survivor, suffering and still seeking justice for all. (August 25)

Hi there, Rick and Mary George here. This is a picture we came across and thought we would sent it to you.

It's a picture of Davy Roche in Thailand in early 1995. (August 20)

SC 18767 Cpl David Peter Richard Roche CD, 4th, 2nd and 1st Bns (deceased 29 Sep 2004) Jas

Hello: FYI, I was a member of the that Platoon (4 Pl 1960 grad from Depot) and was very pleasantly surprised to see that photo while perusing your website. The actual date of our Graduation was October 28th I believe. I was one of the Sigs types along with Larry Georgeson, Jim Hunt and Ray Boileau. I have very fond memories of my time at the Guards Depot even though the basic training was no picnic. It was however very valuable training which held me in good stead throughout my 30 year career in the Signal Corps. Don Evoy (August 20)

Note from Jas: These are the individuals Sig Donald Joseph EVOY, Recruit 2693, RCCS mentioned in his comments;

Sig Raymond Albert BOILEAU, Recruit 2707, RCCS

Sig Lawrence Preston GEORGESON, Recruit 2698, RCCS

Sig James Clinton HUNT, Recruit 2694, RCCS

Just checked the comments page and, further to my last, with regard to the "three classes of privates", the respective entries in the soldiers' paybooks read "Private - Recruit", "Private - Trained, Basic Rate" (or TBR) and "Private - Trained, Higher Rate" (or THR), the latter being a prerequisite for appointment to Lance Corporal.

The foregoing just came to me in one of those flashes of minutiae that seem to become more common as the short-term memory gets more porous. Cheers. Al (August 19)

It's always a treat to peruse the comments page, too, and I might actually be able to answer some of the "45-year-old questions."

I don't know what time frame the questioner is querying but when it comes to the issue of Phase 1 and Phase 2 in depot training, this I my recollection of the 1962-1963 period . . .

At the time, we had three classes of privates -- recruit, new soldier and trained soldier. Recruits, irrespective of corps affiliation, went through the same basic training covering such fundamentals as drill, military law and customs of the service and I believe all of the infantry regimental depots got new entries of all affiliations. Once the recruits finished that (Phase 1), they became 'new soldiers' and then undertook a period of 'special-to-corps' training, again at the depot. In the case of those affiliated with the Regiment of Canadian Guards, that training was conducted not by the permanent establishment of the depot but by a training cadre provided by the battalion to which the graduates were to be posted. The goal, as I recall, was to prepare them so that they would arrive in their units with all the corners knocked off and be able to fit right in with a minimum of additional basic training required. They arrived at the battalion as 'trained soldiers', were called Guardsman, and were still pretty raw.

After an initial period of indoctrination and testing I recall that they were then able to sew the Group 1 Infantryman badge, a vertical bayonet, to their lower (the right one, I seem to recall) sleeve. Beyond that, they would undertake specialist training -- mortar, signals, clerk, etc. -- but that was after they became 'trained soldiers'. At least that is as I recall it and I'm not sure how long that system lasted. But it certainly disappeared after 1968 when I took the last platoon, which was also made up of guardsmen and other corps recruits, through the depot which then ceased to exist, although we put a Sr. NCO course through before packing the facility up for good. Recruit training thereafter was conducted at Cornwallis and St. Jean.

With regard to the question of brass buckles on the 37-pattern web belt, no-one wore a regimental buckle -- not Senior NCOs, not the RSM/Drill Sergeant, and not the officers -- on the 37-pattern web belt. The regimental cap badge buckle was pretty much reserved for full dress white belts and, perhaps, some unique applications (RSM/Drill Sgt. sword belts? Pipes and Drums? RPs?). My copy of Regimental Standing orders is packed but I think the answer is in there somewhere.

Why did the RSM wear a sword? He's the regimental sergeant-major, fer pity's sake. There's only one of him and he deserves to be dressed as the unique critter he is. Actually, it's because his appointment as the senior non-commissioned officer allows him to wear certain officer kit, most predominantly the sword, while also wearing the senior NCO's red shoulder sash and carrying the pace stick. The Drill Sergeant is the RSM's understudy, and presumed heir-apparent, and thus inherits many of his same privileges.

Thanks for the opportunity to babble. Cheers. Al Ditter (August 16)

David Moon writes .....

 Diane and I have moved to South Africa for a year or so, on loan to a new SA company from my Canadian employer"

 If any of the members are interested in visiting the battlefields (Paardeburg or indeed SA in general), I would be happy to help. I travel from Pretoria up to that area regularly.

 Best way to contact me is by email dmoon@weatherhaven.com (August 5)

Hello all, just arrive back from the East Coast on Thursday after 9 days away. It was very sad to learn about the passing of our old transport Gdsm Clair Colbourne. He has been buried in Pembroke. As an expression of sympathy, donations to the Dialysis Unit of the Pembroke Regional Hospital would be appreciated. On line condolences may be left at www.nevillefuneralhome.ca or Neville Funeral home 1-613-732-7481. Both Jean and I were saddened to learn of Sheila Wachter's death at the same time. Henry Campbell May 26

My name is Gilbert A Fowler CD former RC Sigs. I took my Basic Training at The Canadian Guards Depot from Nov 61 to Apr 62. I have some good memories of the Guards Depot and remember some of my instructors such as Cpl Maltby, Cpl Moore(A Cape Bretoner). L/Cpl Stone. Officers Plt Co Lt Huile who got his promotion to Capt the same day we graduated from Depot, Lt Dusy Ganon and a Lt Brocklehurst. Some of the Guardsman in our Platoon were Don Wall who I believe ended up with the 1st Guards, Turnbull and Hoffman. There was also another guy by the name Shearer. I have some pictures from the Depot. If memory serves me right our RSM of the Depot was an RSM Rayner and I believe the Chief Instructor was a Capt McDonald. Our Platoon was made up of mostly Maritimers and on the day we left depot, we were lined up on the parade square when Capt MacDonald wished us farewell and told us he didn't want to see us again as we were the biggest bunch of drunks and hoods who ever went through the Guards Depot. Those were the good old days and long live the Mackie House in Pembroke. I really enjoyed your web site wish all your members Good Luck. Gilbert A Fowler CD. (May 26)

....I think these are the people Gilbert Fowler is talking about. Jas (May 27)

(1) SG 69631 Sig Gilbert Arthur Fowler, Rec 3764, RCCS

(2a) Gdsm Leonard Clare Maltby 2nd Bn Rec 1413 (2b) Gdsm Thomas Caley Maltby Rec 1412

(3) WO 2 Francis Joseph Moore, CD, 2nd and 1st Bns

(4) Gdsm Barry Allan Stone Rec 1560

(5) BGen William Allan Douglas Yuill OMM, CD 2nd Bn

(6) Capt Frederick Stephen Gannon CD 1st and 2nd Bns

(7) Lt Col Wayne Arthur Brocklehurst CD 1st and 2nd Bns

(8) Gdsm George Stanley Turnbull 2nd Bn Rec 3826

(9) Gdsm Robert James Hoffman 1st Bn Rec 3704

(10) Gdsm Robert William Shearer Rec 3727

(11) RSM Harry H. Rayner CD 1st Bn and Depot

(12) Maj Archibald C. McDonell CD 1st Bn and Depot

The media ban on repatriation of fallen soldiers and the termination of lowering the flag on the Peace Tower
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Hello, I am looking for a Guards flag for my father. He served with the batallion for many years. His name is John (Jack) Ryan. If you could be of any assistance I would really appreciate it. I can be contacted at kenryan933@hotmail.com

Thank you very much, Ken Ryan (May 23)

During the evening of 15 May 1956, O/Cdt GS Wharton was met at the Petawawa Train Station by the 1 Cdn Gds Picquet Officer, 2Lt ID Inrig and was conducted to the 1st Bn Officer’s Mess. This was Wharton’s first contact with the Regiment of his choice.

At the Mess they were joined by Lts JG Martin and JE Brown of the Regimental Depot. There the three Lts entertained the O/Cdt with such warmth and kindness that a half century later he remembers that evening with such clarity that it seems like only yesterday.

It was during that evening that Jack or Jim said, “Welcome to your new home.” What they did not know was that both my parents were dead and as I went to bed that night I truly felt that I had a new home – my Regiment. That feeling of belonging has never left me.

Thanks so very much for your kindness fifty years ago today. ......Gerry

 from Ray Trowhill....UPDATE May 20

David has been released from hospital. He is not 100% but his spirits are high, his sense of humour undiminished and his strength of character undaunted. Thanks for facilitating the support that undoubtedly contributed to his recovery.

May 6

David has asked that I thank his many friends who took the opportunity to touch base with him through this means and who provided him and Gertie with so much support while he ploughed through this latest medical crisis. And plough through it he did.

David has confounded local physicians and specialists from our regional centre in Sudbury by pulling back yet again from the edge and by actively beginning to build himself up physically with every intention of returning home. He is not out of the woods yet and his intention to return home may prove unattainable given his heavy reliance on bottled oxygen and other medical problems. That being said, I would never bet against him or his kind.

I will keep you informed of his progress and continue to relay any e-mails to David that Association members may still wish to send

from Ray Trowhill [Director of Diagnostic and Therapeutic Services, Temiskasming Hospital, New Liskeard, Ontario]

Just a quick note to let you know that David Hallworth was airlifted from here to the Sudbury Hospital yesterday afternoon in very serious condition. His family is with him and I assured him before he left that I would let the Regiment know.

* D. A. Hallworth 455 Amwell Street Haileybury, ON P0J1K0 (705) 672 - 5745 (April 25)

update April 27

David Hallworth was airlifted back here this Tuesday. He has little time left and I will monitor to ensure that everything possible is done to ensure that it is as comfortable and stress-free as possible. I know that he has many friends in the Guards Association and The Canadian Airborne Regiment Association who may want an opportunity to send their best wishes and support to David and Gertie at this difficult time and I know that both would appreciate their doing so. Messages can be sent through my e-mail address and I will take hard copies down to Dave and Gertie at least twice daily. It goes without saying that I will also keep you, and through you the Association, informed of his progress.

Hello Gerry,

Thanks for your two messages earlier today. At least if nothing else I have a new contact for my Address Book!. Seriously though, it was nice to get your reply.

It's also nice to have this 'Contact' with you and your Association. I say that because you may be in a position to help. During the period mentioned in the article, when the Canadian Guards were in their infancy (sorry if that's the wrong terminology) and whilst the group on the photograph were at Caterham, a Film Unit appeared on a Saturday morning to film The Commandants Parade. The aim of this exercise was to take it back to Canada for use there. I was on this parade and thereby hangs a story which at this point I won't bore you with. What I would really love to do is be able to get hold of a 'Copy' should it still be available in the 'Archives in Canada'.

Probably a museum exhibit by now 50 yrs down the road. I shall await with interest your comments regarding this.

Whilst I am at it, I should like to draw you attention to a 'Web Site' which has been set up by three ex members of the Grenadier Guards. It is an excellent site and well worth a visit. Not that you will personally know anybody on there (Apart from me of course!). All I would ask, is that should you decide to take a look, please 'Sign In' in the Guest Book and mention that I told you about it. The Web Address is as follows.

http://www.geocities.com/richoyouknow/pickpage.html Enjoy! (Grenadier Guards)

Regards to you Brian Brenchley. (April 12) (Anyone out there know about this film?? Webmaster)

Hi. My name is Joe Martin, joined the GDS in 63 'til rebadge in 70 to RCR. Served in many places and ops ,have been retired since 93 to a very peaceful place outside Saint John NB. I have just recently joined the 20th centry and the computer age. I took note that Ted Mason lives close by. I wonder if he is also on line - sure would like to hear from old comrades! (April 6)

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Dear Sir,

I am hoping someone knew my dad. I do not understand all the lingo (#Coy etc.) The information that I am including is just from a newspaper article, I am awaiting his records from Ottawa. Perhaps someone knew him or can share with me what he might have done during any of his postings. I didn't pay attention growing up (wished I had now) and my Mom is also deceased so I don't have anyone to ask. Dad returned home wounded (I now believe due to attack on Hill 355 Oct. 23/52).

I will be happy to receive any information at kcgap@tru.eastlink.ca Thank you so much, Karen nee Crooks , Truro, NS (Mar 10)

George I. Crooks (died Dec. 14, 1985 age 57)

May '69 - 2 Cdn. Guards (later RCR)
Dec. 1962 - 1973 - Petawawa 1973 - Greenwood NCO i-c Base Food Services - Retired WO

In regards to the picture of the 4 pl grad,that Cookie Gilchrist commanded, I believe there are some errors; the platoon that I graduated with was the 1st pl to go to to 2nd Bn on their return to Canada from Germany. It was commanded by Cookie but the names mentioned were not part of that as I recall. There was Gary Church, Paul Grant and last names such as Daren Zanco, Itterman, Hammond, Cook and of course myself. I believe that was in Feb of 1960.

regards, Butch Montreuil

P S the majority of us went to 7 coy,where I spent 3 great years in public duties detachment ( March 5) (Ed: Goldie's photo was for Oct 1960, different platoon, same 2Lt??)

 from Moe Bergeron

Please visit www.lastpostfund.ca to view a recent update. In particular, please note the Last Post Fund Governing Council resolution concerning the Modern Day Veterans.

 from Robie Woodworth

Military/RCMP Pensioners Against Benefit Reduction at age 65   “ Latest up-dates

To the membership:

  This injustice levelled at our Veterans someday will affect your Children, Grand Children, and/or members of your family. Someone will proudly volunteer to serve our Country in the Military/RCMP Forces. It should be a concern of all Canadians!

  The Committee and I take this opportunity to say thank you for your continual support. Our private member’s bill will be reinstated by Mr. Peter Stoffer,MP during the next sitting of Parliament. Our Mission continues and we have thus far accumulated over 36,000 supporters.

  In 1966 most unions did not go along with the Government plan to integrate rather than stack our pension plans. As Senior Military Officers did not hold Assistant Deputy Minister (ADM) appointments in the old Canadian Forces HQ, military personnel had absolutely no say in the matter of merging or stacking the benefits. In short, it was the Government of the day decision.

  Military and RCMP Personnel are a very different Government provider, always prepared and ready to give the ultimate liability. In turn, Members of Parliament and the Government have the ultimate responsibility for the welfare of our Veterans. They need to acknowledge us through their actions, not only by words. Consider the billions of dollars in surpluses that both plans have accumulated and the fact that far too many of our Veterans, with over 30 years of service, live today on less than a $15,000 year annuity.

Sincerely,
John
John Labelle, Campaign Coordinator
http://www3.ns.sympatico.cs/military.pension Revised February 26, 2006

Good day Jas

On the Guards website there is a picture of a 2 coy party buck, yellow with the indian. Has anyone identified it yet. I could be wrong, but I think my dad, Bill Hunter was the artist on that one. There was something very familiar about it. I want to say it was done when we were in Soest Germany. Even the printing looks like his. If you have had someone identify it would you please let me know.

To everyone who puts together the Guards Site, you do a fantastic job. The pictures are wonderful and bring back many memories for everyone. My mother, Eileen is 80 now and I go thru the site with her when she is over. Keep up the good work. Heather_Weese@kprdsb.ca

Thanking you in advance
Regards
Heather Weese (Hunter) & Eileen Hunter

Feb 25, 2006 (Ed. note: That particular "2 buck" was used at a 2 coy party in Cyprus in 1964-5 but that doesn't mean that the design wasn't used earlier?)

 This is a copy of the letter sent to the president of the Guards Association and the RCR Association from the Canadian Armed Forces Director Human Rights and Diversity. The date 2001 is when I first won the the case; however it took four years thru appeal courts up to the Federal Court of Appeal on 3 May 2005 before it was over and I won. I would like to pass this on to the guys it happened to, before me (Al).

OTTAWA - December 27, 2001 - A Canadian Human Rights Tribunal has concluded that the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) withheld a promotion to a now-retired Warrant Officer because of his age, and has ordered compensation for him.

George Morris ((Al) ex 1/3 RCR and Guards) filed a complaint with the CHRC in 1996, after being passed over repeatedly for promotion to Master Warrant Officer, despite possessing the prerequisites. He believed the CF's reason for denying him the promotion was based on his age.

"Increasingly, older workers are targets of discrimination," said CHRC Chief Commissioner Michelle Falardeau-Ramsay. "Mr. Morris was qualified for a promotion, and had received glowing recommendations over a number of years for the higher position. His age should not have been a factor in his being denied this hard-earned recognition and position," she went on.

In examining the evidence before him, Tribunal Chairperson Athanasios Hadjis noted that "...a view prevailed within the Canadian Forces, that older members could not get promoted," a factor that contributed to continued decisions to not grant him a promotion to the rank of Master Warrant Officer.

In delivering his ruling, Chairperson Hadjis ordered the CF to promote Mr. Morris to the rank of Master Warrant Officer, effective September 1, 1993, and to pay him the difference between his Warrant Officer salary and what he would have received had he been promoted. In addition to interest, the CF must also adjust the complainant's severance compensation, cover any additional income tax liability he may incur, and pay him $3,000 special compensation for hurt feelings.

"The Tribunal's ruling sends an important message to the Canadian Forces--one which I hope will bring positive change to its merit assessment process," concluded the Chief Commissioner.

This happened to a lot of good men. (Al) (Feb 14)

Thanks for sharing the 2006 photos. I really enjoyed looking at them and others in the past. It certainly brings back old memories especially when you see some fellows that you served with. Be interested to see more that you might have. Bill Teed (SF14681) 2 Gds (Feb17)

I remember Juteau (see SOS ) well from the 3rd. Bn. He was a good soldier and leader to the end. I remember him and his helpers in Montreal & Quebec having the Canadian Flag raised against the wishes of the local separatists. Sorry we were not able to get to the Robi Burns dinner with the Ottawa group, I was running the Burns night here Sat. 28th. ; it went well. Kind regards to all.

Henry, Jean (Campbell ) & gang (Feb 5)

 Dear Sir,

  I'm looking for a tape from the CDN Armed Forces in which the First Bn CDN GUARDS participated in the Canadian Armed Forces Tattoo in 67 is there such a tape & how do I go about getting one ? Yours truly RD Wright Feb 4 (wouldn't mind that myself...Gerry)

Any info available here? email another link summary

45 year old questions

I was looking at some notes the other day and, with a recent pilgrimage to Petawawa, I have some old queries. I may have known answers at one time but, time has squeezed out a few things from memory. I wonder if someone could help me out?

1. Recruit training was broken into "Phase 1 & Phase 2". Why? During "Phase 2", NCOs from (2nd) Battalion took over. Why was this as opposed to original instructors taking platoon all the way through Depot?

 2. During Depot, there were recruits from other corps..ie: Sigs, Medical, etc. Did other infantry depots do this as well? ( Not sure about other infantry depots, I believe they didn't. But I know 1562 Corps personnel did their Recruit Training at the Guards Depot. )

3. In other infantry regiments and corps at the time...all ranks wore regimental or their corps buckles on Pattern '37 web belt. Only senior NCOs and personnel in full dress wore Regimental buckle in Canadian Guards. Why not everyone (on '37 Pat. belt)?

4. Why did RSM and Drill Sergeant wear swords?

5. Exactly what other Foot Guards regiment in British Army were Canadian Guards allied to? ( None, General Simonds decreed The Canadian Guards would be a truly Canadian Regiment, affiliated to none. ) (see History P9)

6. Why exactly were Navy boots issued to Guard (7) Coy.? ( They were smooth and better quality and easier to "polish" The old army boots were pebbled, oily and hard to polish. In the old days we "ironed" our boots smooth. ) (Jas' answers in italics! I remember ironing at least one pair of boots - at Borden, I think! Gerry H))

Thanks for any help, Peter Crampton email (Jan 29)

Thanks Armand. Interesting answers..especially #5! I hope members can come up with remainder.

Re my visit to Petawawa. The displays in the Guards section of the museum looked terrific and I really enjoyed some time spent with John Clarke.
My wife and I have our house for sale here on Vancouver Island so that we can migrate back east to Ontario...making future re-unions, etc. less challenging from the geographical point of view.

Thanks for your help. Peter (Jan 30)

Just an update that the outfit (Canadian Army Veteran Motorcycle Unit, or The C.A.V. www.thecav.ca ) has grown substantially (its been an explosion) pulling in Veteran motorcycle enthusiasts who want to continue to support their country through raising funds for charities. A number of Guards are involved in various units coast to coast. Out here in Calgary I am waiting for Jack Rayner (father RSM Gds Depot and he himself a Guardsman 1st Bn/ retired Sgt PPCLI) to purchase another bike and get on the road with us.

If any Guards are out in Calgary come late August of any year you are all welcome to pop on by at Jack's Better Hole BBQ Weekend at Rayner's ranch outside Strathmore. It is one hell of a time with young, middle-aged and old-timer vets and serving members.This year the Ypres (Calgary) and Frezenberg (Edmonton) Units from 3rd CAV will be there in force. There are even mock observation posts and a bunker to add to the soldiers theme. It can't be beat. CJ (Wallace) Jan 30

Please add my e-mail address as follows: malknocker@yahoo.ca. I was in the Guards from 60-63. I was posted in Ottawa in the summer of '60. I was then transferred to Zoest for 18 months - Four Company. I was in with my brother Doug Knocker. I am presently living in Oshawa, having retired from the Oshawa Fire Department after 35 years of service. I am the Drum Major for Royal Canadian Legion Branch 43 Pipe Band and have been Sergeant at Arms for the last 16 years. I would like to hear from anyone in the battalion at that time.

Mal Knocker (Jan 27)

Note To Cpl R Ballman's son...I accidentally erased your email today!! Please send it again. Sorry! Gerry (webmaster) Jan 13

I am a former Scots Guardsman now living in King City, Ontario. I recently had the opportunity of locating your fine web site and found that you had a photograph of your first instructors and included in the picture was my late father, Donald McNab Whyte, Scots Guards, who at the time was the RSM of the Guards Depot at Caterham. .............NB> ( Click for our Caterham Link)

I have several photographs of my father and members of the Canadian Guards. I have located one such photograph which is attached hereto.

Is it possible for you to scan the photograph that you have on your site, if you could, I would appreciate your help very much. I will attempt to locate the other photographs which are somewhere in my house.

Best wishes to all former Guardsmen,

Bill Whyte

William R. Whyte Armet Armored Vehicles Ltd P.O Box 273 King City, Ontario,

905-833-2221 www.aavi.com Jan 23

I found your website online and knowing that my father Stephen Jarrett (English Fellow) had served with the 1st Guards that I would send you his phone number and allow any former comrades a chance to get in contact with him. My father now resides in St. Catherines, On. You can reach him at 905-685-3014. My father is retired and is a widower having lost my mother in 2000 to congestive heart failure. An active member of the Legion, I am sure he would be thrilled to hear from you.

Thank you in advance, Michael Jarrett Petty Officer 1st Class (Rtd) Jan 23

from Al Johnston

In December 2005, Merve Olinik was appointed a Director of the Association and Chairman of the Guards Help Committee. John Trethewey, because of business commitments, asked to be replaced as Chairman. Merve can be reached via the National Website, (click on Contact us, Advocacy Programme Co-Director) or at 1723 Boyer Road, Orleans, ON K1C 3H8 (613) 841-5198

(Gdsm) Maj Mervin George Olinik, CD, Recruit 2442, served with the 1st Bn Jan 13

from Robie Woodworth

I visited Dennis (Bucky) Buchanan in the Valley Regional Hospital in Kentville, NS, on Wed 11 Jan 06. He has undergone major surgery and is recuperating and undergoing further tests. Dennis is in good spirits but I know he would enjoy hearing from all his buddies. For those of you who do not have his e-mail address you may send him an e mail from a link on the Atlantic Branch Website (see links)

from Robie Woodworth

Please note and visit the enclosed link concerning the pension claw back on our military pensions.

  http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/military.pension/page-01.htm

Our fellow pensioners have done an outstanding job in pushing for the cessation of this claw back, and are still working hard to ensure that it gets back on the "order Paper". I urge you all to carefully peruse the website and all of its links in order to determine just who and who is NOT supporting our cause. It may be an eye opener for you. (It was for me). Jan 13

I am looking for a WT Nickerson who was born in 1930. His last address was 266 First Avenue, Apt. B. Ottawa Canada. He served in Viet Nam for the US in the late 60's and early 70's. He fathered two children in Viet Nam but was unable to get them out. His two children a male and a female both live in Portland Oregon. They would like to meet their father. They remember that their grandmother sent them shoes.

My name is Nancy Holmes. The two Nickerson children are friends of my cousin in Portland Oregon. If anyone can be of help it would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Nancy Holmes holmes@pacifier.com Jan 12

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